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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyApril 9th 2014, 1:02 pm

Looks like GM is not cooperating.

And Toyota is looking to get in on the action as well.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyApril 9th 2014, 1:18 pm

My sons 2008 Cobalt has started acting up with the ignition switch. I had him just use the key with nothing attached, it still cut off on him twice on his way home from work on Friday, 2 times in 11 miles. Twice on the way in too. 4 times on one day.

No parts available yet, so the car is undriveable and just sitting until there is some.

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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyApril 9th 2014, 5:33 pm

GM has been fined, but the feds don't know if they collect from GM or the tax payers.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyApril 9th 2014, 5:52 pm

I think it's part of the ObamaCare tax.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyApril 12th 2014, 12:31 pm

Maybe the government knew this was pending when they sold their remaining GM shares.

There's some debate about whether Barra knew about the ignition issue in 2011.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyMay 20th 2014, 1:41 pm

GM issues four new recalls, 2.4 million vehicles affected

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General Motors has announced another set of recalls, covering some 2.42 million cars in the United States. For those keeping track, The General has now recalled over 15 million cars worldwide this year due to various issues.

Here's the breakdown for this most recent set of recalls:

1,339,355 – Buick Enclave, Chevrolet Traverse, GMC Acadia models from the 2009 to 2014 model years; Saturn Outlook models from the 2009 to 2010 model years

1,075,102 – Chevy Malibu sedans from the 2004 to 2008 model years; Pontiac G6 models from the 2005 to 2008 model years

1402 – Cadillac Escalade and Escalade ESV SUVs from the 2015 model year

58 – Chevy Silverado HD and GMC Sierra HD pickups from the 2015 model year

For the Lambda crossovers, GM says that "front safety lap belt cables can fatigue and separate over time." In the event of a crash, "a separated cable could increase the risk of injury to front seat passengers," the automaker points out. GM has told its dealers not to sell any new or used examples of these vehicles until the repairs are made.

The Malibu and G6 issue, which also includes the Malibu Maxx, is an extension of a recall for Saturn Aura models with four-speed automatic transmissions. 4AT-equipped models have a condition where the transmission shift cable can fracture. "When the fracture occurs, the driver may not be able to select a different gear, remove the key from the ignition or place the transmission in park," GM states. The company is aware of 18 crashes and one injury related to this issue.

Brand-new Escalade models are being recalled because "an insufficiently heated plastic weld that attaches the passenger side air bag to the instrument panel assembly could result in a partial deployment of the air bag in the event of a crash." A stop-sale has been ordered for these SUVs, and owners have been told to not let anyone sit in the front passenger seat until the issue has been addressed.

Finally, the HD pickup recall affects vehicles equipped with a 220-amp generator. "Retention clips that attach a fuse block to the vehicle body can become loose, allowing the fuse block to move out of position and lead to a potential fire," GM states.

Overall, GM said in a press release that it expects to take a charge of up to $400 million in the second quarter, due to recall-related repairs. This figure includes the previously announced $200 million recall charge.

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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyMay 20th 2014, 1:43 pm

The new recall king. GM.

They still don't have parts available for my son's 2008 Cobalt.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyMay 20th 2014, 1:53 pm

To put this into perspective... GM has recalled more vehicles so far this year (4.5 months) than they have sold in the US in the past FIVE YEARS. That's crazy!

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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyMay 20th 2014, 2:24 pm

We'll need to finance another bailout at this rate.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyMay 20th 2014, 2:45 pm

I've figured out what the ultimate recession proof job is. Just become a certified GM mechinac and get a job at your local dealer. That's job security.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyMay 20th 2014, 3:07 pm

Laughing 

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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyMay 20th 2014, 3:39 pm

Ironic as I'm working with my Dad right now to get him scheduled for service on his '95 Lightning for the recall on the cruise control fire hazard. My wife's '12 Edge has been recalled for fuel line issues with fire potential. Ford has also extended coverage on a couple of systems that seem to fail at a high rate, the brake booster system and the Accessory Protocol Interface Module. The latter we've already had replaced once.

Maybe if Americans can talk yourself into it our only choices will be a Toyota or Kia. It's popular and hip to beat on American companies. The same Americans will be ones that complain where's the jobs when they buy nothing that's American. Ironic they contributed to the demise they are now living. Hypocrisy is rampant.

I'm not sure how GM is liable. Maybe politically, but legally the old GM died and was set to rest via bankruptcy. How legally a company can be liable for damages that preceded the current company born in 2009 is an interesting one.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyMay 20th 2014, 6:33 pm

GM is now under the microscope and if something as simple as a sun visor swings down it will be recalled.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyMay 20th 2014, 9:19 pm

Shifter cables wearing out on a 10yr old car?
As Mr. Wonderful would say "Stop the insanity!".

The frame cross member rusted and fell off on my 1993 Geo Tracker.
Should I go after GM and Suzuki?
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyMay 20th 2014, 11:03 pm

ggbaird wrote:
To put this into perspective... GM has recalled more vehicles so far this year (4.5 months) than they have sold in the US in the past FIVE YEARS. That's crazy!

Jalopnik

wow, that kinda hits you when you read it.

toyota is loving this, they got out recalled, LOL

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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyMay 21st 2014, 11:44 am

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I'm not sure how GM is liable. Maybe politically, but legally the old GM died and was set to rest via bankruptcy. How legally a company can be liable for damages that preceded the current company born in 2009 is an interesting one.

My issue with that is the bailout followed by bankruptcy followed by creative tax dodging approved by our government. If GM would have declared bankruptcy and not done the rest I would have more sympathy for them. The *old GM* never truly died and got laid to rest. I don't think it's hypocrisy to think bankruptcy laws should not have been altered for GM. And because they were altered I don't distinguish between *new* and *old* GM.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyMay 21st 2014, 1:37 pm

We want them bankrupt, we don't want them bankrupt when it's convenient. People need to decide what they want, selective use of law isn't a the bedrock of our nation. It either is or it isn't. Bankruptcy law wasn't altered. The bankruptcy court judge ruled which creditors were paid first. The only reason this was a major issue is that hedge funds came in and bought bonds just before bankruptcy in hopes they would cash in on the GM bankruptcy making 3:1 up to 5:1 on their original bond purchase when creditors were paid. It wasn't mom and pop loosing money for their stock. The stock was already made worthless before bankruptcy trading at less than a dollar a share.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyMay 21st 2014, 2:22 pm

My last post was a bit incoherent after reading your reply. Altered is defiantly the wrong choice of words. You did mention politically liable, and they certainly are. However that's a tired sore subject for many. I'm not gonna get everyone riled up by me ranting about it.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyJune 17th 2014, 2:51 pm

Yes, I know, all the manufacturers have issued recalls lately, but WTF!? Less than six months into the year and GM has surpassed 20 million recalls! Seriously?!

http://money.cnn.com/2014/06/16/news/companies/gm-recall-injuries/index.html?sr=socialfb061714gmrecall1130aStoryLink
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyJune 17th 2014, 4:15 pm

another one today

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2014/06/recall-alert-2014-15-chevrolet-and-gmc-full-size-pickups.html


looks like QC review on their new truck might of been sub-par.

let's hope this doesn't continue and get worse for the guys who bought those new trucks

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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyJune 17th 2014, 4:35 pm

These recalls are all a crock of crap by GM just to drive showroom traffic. Those buffoons still don't have the parts for my son's Cobalt. It's been on recall for 5 months now.

I have called repeatedly and even driven the car in once. The parts are always "2 weeks out" ...they just won't tell me which 2 weeks. Now or a couple of weeks in 2057.

It is all a PR smokescreen of "GM Cares"....meanwhile, nothing is getting fixed. NOTHING.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyJune 22nd 2014, 12:14 pm

GM's going down slowly. It just seems to keep getting worse. BS excuse after BS excuse for cover-ups and new recalls.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyJune 23rd 2014, 12:50 am

I seriously doubt others are immune from such as well.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyJune 28th 2014, 10:37 am

Joemac, Nobody is immune from recalls, but covering up a deadly one is another story.

Just heard on the news this morning that GM is announcing 3 more recalls related to computer software issues that could cause the trans to shift into neutral on it's own.

I think GM is on it's way to setting a world record.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyJune 28th 2014, 11:30 am

As of yet we have not had one recall on our 2013 Cruze and have owned it for 18 months now, bought new.

I was never worried about side saddle fuel tanks on my older C/K trucks either. IIRC GM produced data on those trucks showing they actually had a lower incident rate than comparable products of the time, but 20/20 doesn't care about facts.

It is getting ridiculous and GM has been under the microscope of the negative media for several decades now.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyJune 28th 2014, 12:59 pm

One of the GM ignition cases here locally was the owner of a HHR, speed was in excess of twice the posted speed limit in a residential neighborhood. That didn't stop her family and the lawyers from filing a suit trying to pin GM.

Putting everything into perspective. There are around 35,000 automobile deaths in the US annually. Americans have never been educated less on driving, many don't even like or enjoy it. Add into the fact anything that goes wrong has to be someone else s responsibility. This is like the mindset of spending trillions of dollars annually bombing and fighting wars to keep us safe because over a decade ago guys with box cutters crashed planes and killed 3000 people, we'll never be able to pick up and carry one. Yet nearly 600,000 annually die of cancer a year in the US. Where's our interest and money? War, never ending, ever changing boogie man. War at any chance. Our priorities, honesty and integrity need serious reevaluation.

GM is the media step child. Has been for decades. Thing is all the rhetoric will just further erode the domestic auto industry as a whole. American's seem to pride themselves at it every chance they get. Go out buy a Lexus, then wonder where the jobs went. How ironic. We talk ourselves into this crap, making it worse than it really is. Then throw in the demographic change in our country. Automobile manufacturing doesn't have a chance. Toss in with disinformation opinion laced MSM does a real disservice to the people and the country.

Ford has had their share of ingestion/cruse control system fires. Explorer/Firestone. Toyota UOA. Dead people everywhere. No company is immune. It's a huge liability to any automotive company.

Lots of circumstantial information thrown about, lawyers like to jump in a make large sums of money. It's a gravy train financial gain for a few. That seems to be all this country has going for it.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyJune 28th 2014, 1:40 pm

joemac wrote:
One of the GM ignition cases here locally was the owner of a HHR, speed was in excess of twice the posted speed limit in a residential neighborhood.  That didn't stop her family and the lawyers from filing a suit trying to pin GM.

Whoa now, you can't blame the victim.  GM Recalls - Page 2 1446659450 

I agree with you, some of these cases are totally driver error.
Would that HHR, driven at legal speeds, have hit a bump hard enough to create the G-forces nec to move the switch??

Should GM address the ignition switch problem, yes.
Should it be such a circus event like it is, no.

What is next?
A Sonic driven an 2X the legal speed hits a dip in the road, suspension compresses and they loose control and crash.
Must be GMs fault because they have the MRC suspension technology that would have prevented that!

Think that wouldn't happen? Guess again.
Back in the late 80s some people tried to sue GM and Ford for no air bags in a Escort and small GM car. GM/Ford knew air bags saved lives and did not include them in those cars and the drivers were killed in accidents. Legally drunk, speeding and not wearing a seat belt. Air bag technology was new, expensive and evolving but that did not stop the lawsuits.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyJune 28th 2014, 11:50 pm

Diesel Dan wrote:
joemac wrote:
One of the GM ignition cases here locally was the owner of a HHR, speed was in excess of twice the posted speed limit in a residential neighborhood.  That didn't stop her family and the lawyers from filing a suit trying to pin GM.

Whoa now, you can't blame the victim.  GM Recalls - Page 2 1446659450 

Guess I'm curious of the alleged ignition's part in the lady driving 60+ mph plus in a 25 zone.  Guess somehow the ignition is at fault for going in excess of twice the posted limit.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyJune 29th 2014, 12:22 am

Hoping you caught my sarcasm there.
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PostSubject: Re: GM Recalls   GM Recalls - Page 2 EmptyJune 29th 2014, 10:11 am

Missed it, got it now.
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