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Subject: Clinton for the Win? April 10th 2015, 6:49 pm
Unless the Republicans get their act together, we will have a woman in the White House. I don't think this country can survive another 4 years of Democratic rule.
pup
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 10th 2015, 8:56 pm
It's way early. Just think how many more hundreds of Clinton scandals we have yet to endure...plus, I think Obama is going to torpedo Hillary before this is all over. The Obama's hate the Clintons more than they hate Republicans.
TheQuig
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 11th 2015, 12:13 pm
Clinton pushed Benghazi aside, deleted her emails without so far more than a mumbling from the American people. Democrats offer all the give-a-ways, so why should people work. I'm hoping that her party knocks her off, but they don't have much to offer beside her at the moment.
theshyguy
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 11th 2015, 11:23 pm
I will say right now that she will NOT win. She may win the Democratic nomination but not the general election. The likely rivals are Joe Biden who cant get out of his own way. Elizabeth Warren who is even to the left of Hillary and will steal a lot of the extremes away from Hillary but push everyone else to another candidate. And Jim Webb who I actually like. From what I have heard about him I may even vote for him depending on who the Rep nominee is.
She has a lot of baggage and while it has like you said, not caused much noise, will weight her down when she becomes the #1 target with BILLIONS spent against her.
Right now I dont really see a Republican candidate I think will be a good president and has a chance at winning.
Charlie in TX
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 12th 2015, 3:53 pm
So far nothing has stuck to her. Whitewater, murders (disguised as suicide), Benghazi, email server. Her people, which include the national press, have and will forgive her for anything.
joemac
Posts : 1916 Join date : 2013-04-17 Location : Texas
Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 12th 2015, 5:12 pm
The reason the establishment Republicans seem lost is because they are just like the Democrats. Sure they say different things, the actions however are the same. They both have pet projects, and pro war fanaticism. End of the day unless the country elects a "different" leader, the results will be the same. We'll likely be having the same conversation again in four and eight years from now. Difference contrasting now and then. The current establishment red or blue ticket nets us....
More taxes More surveillance More authority More debt More wars More death Less freedom Less personal liberty
Even if the country did have a political uprising, unlikely because the mass public simply doesn't care and is willfully uninformed, the establishment has a long string of serial safety nets to make certain citizen representation can't even be nominated, put on a ballot, or attend debates, or win an election.
Bill Benny described it best. At our founding we had a country with a government. Now we have a government with a country.
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TheQuig
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 12th 2015, 5:43 pm
I agree with you. The public either doesn't care or they feel they no longer have a power of vote that will make a change. My older judo instructor used to say when teaching class " judo is not a democracy, but a benevolent dictatorship". I think our country is turning into this without the benevolent part.
shatto
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 12th 2015, 8:33 pm
.... What does not qualify anyone to run anything: Vagina. Penis.
pup
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 13th 2015, 6:51 pm
joemac
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 14th 2015, 11:15 am
#1 No one recognized her, because our citizenry now couldn't be more disinterested and purposefully not informed. Then there are a few of us that wouldn't get up our of our seat to be enamored by another liar, immunity from law, war mongering, deceitful, dishonest politician.
#2 She has security, plenty of security, she gets Secret Service for life. There were agents at the place before she arrived. There were other agents in the place with her besides the one female agent.
#3 Looks like she's discovered the use of a private phone, and another email account/domain. How quaint.
#4 Those that are informed, don't give a ! where she went or what she had for lunch because we know who she is and can imagine what she'll do to the country if she's handed the reigns.
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pup
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 14th 2015, 11:56 am
Every breath she takes is carefully orchestrated.
Only the lowest Gruber among us would believe this wasn't staged well in advance.
joemac
Posts : 1916 Join date : 2013-04-17 Location : Texas
Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 14th 2015, 1:18 pm
Notice the theme, riding in a van, lunch at fast food retail, photo-ops at the Pilot truck stop. Last time she's been to a Pilot was likely never. Hiring Twitter comment promoter services, FB as well, buying likes. The propaganda is endless, around every corner, at every turn.
Make her appear like one of the common folk. After the election, never to be seen again. She'll be back on the thrown, sucking more and more life from the country continuing the "transformation".
Sad thing. The rest of them, aren't any better. Rubio, Bush? Never underestimate the ignorance of Americans. The media is incapable of asking a single pertinent question. Fox can't get past their glorification of terror, or the old guard GOP. At this point, if the election were held today, prepare for eight years of Hilary.
Scout
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 14th 2015, 2:42 pm
Now that she has officially announced her candidacy I'm sure all her failures will be put back into the spotlight. Not to mention anything else that is going to be dug up now that she is officially running. Sadly none of it will matter to much of the country. Obama has proven that the Presidential election is now more of a middle school popularity contest than it is an informed decision about who the best person for the job is. And I may be giving the general population too much credit by going as far as middle school. Recently it seems more like elementary level class president elections. You know, the kid that says if you elect me I will get everyone longer recess.
joemac
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 15th 2015, 3:49 pm
Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 15th 2015, 10:01 pm
pup wrote:
Is Clinton running for forklift driver president? That H reminds me of a Hyster symbol.
joemac
Posts : 1916 Join date : 2013-04-17 Location : Texas
Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 16th 2015, 3:55 pm
Have a meeting. Sure, with Hilary they confiscate your phones and cameras. Nothing says being connected with Americana like having your effects removed from your person as a condition to have a meeting.
Actually America couldn't try and find a person with a worse character than her. Or a total lack of morality and integrity. Yet she's going to win the Presidency as things stand today. What a country. The demographic that will vote for her in large numbers? White females. In droves the vast majority with not a thought else wise.
Only a sub human acts like this at the killing of anyone no matter how deplorable we believe they are. Now Libya has the black and white flag flying over the capital, and has been deemed a failed state.. Nice Hilary nice. Commander in Chief? No shit.
pup
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 16th 2015, 4:48 pm
She lied about her "immigrant" grand-parents yesterday..the ones that were born here.
Her and Liawatha Fauxcahontas Warren can get together and re-write all of history. Grubers sure as hell don't care.
ggbaird
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 16th 2015, 6:10 pm
pup
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? April 16th 2015, 6:17 pm
She's been railing not stop over big money, then announced today they would be accepting lobbyist donations for her campaign..she doesn't even bother hiding the hypocrisy any more. With 47% of the voting Gruber public locked in, she doesn't have too, she only has to fool a couple percent here and there and she's in.
joemac
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? May 15th 2015, 5:05 pm
Good watch.
joemac
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? May 19th 2015, 11:55 am
A second secret email address used by Hillary Rodham Clinton while she was secretary of state was revealed Monday.
The email address, published by The New York Times, was used in exchanges between Clinton and longtime adviser Sydney Blumenthal, and is from the same private email server that was uncovered earlier this year.
“Fyi. The idea of using private security experts to arm the opposition should be considered,” Clinton wrote Blumenthal from the email address HRod17@clintonemail.com.
The two were discussing strategies to help the opposition rebels oust Moammar Khadafy in Libya as that country descended into chaos in 2011.
Clinton’s office insisted just two months ago that the only private email address used by the former secretary of state during her tenure was hdr22@clintonemail.com.
In a 2015 letter to Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC), Clinton’s lawyer acknowledged that the HRod17 email address existed, but stated explicitly that it was “not an address that existed during Secretary Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state.”
The time stamps and content of the messages make clear that this statement was inaccurate, according to the Times report.
The first private email use was seen as a breach of protocol. Clinton’s advisers handed over 55,000 pages of emails to the State Department so they could comply with an investigation. But, according to Vice News, those emails will not be made public until 2016.
Clinton admitted to deleting thousands of others, claiming they were personal. The revelation of a second email address raises questions about Clinton’s transparency and her relationship with Blumenthal.
The longtime Clinton confidant was not working at the State Department at the time, but advising American contractors that sought to do business in war-torn Libya.
In another email after Blumenthal suggested the new Libyan leader, Mohamed Magariaf, would “seek a discrete relationship with Israel,” Clinton wrote to her deputy Jake Sullivan, “If true, this is encouraging. Should consider passing to Israelis,” according to the Times.
Blumenthal’s coordination with Clinton raises the likelihood of additional scrutiny as she runs for the White House.
While he was not given a job in the State Department by the Obama administration, Blumenthal was employed by Bill and Hillary Clinton’s philanthropic organization, the Clinton Foundation, to help with research and “message guidance,” according to the Times.
At the same time, the Times reported, Blumenthal also was helping to craft Hillary’s 2016 presidential campaign message by working as a consultant to Media Matters and American Bridge.
theshyguy
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? May 19th 2015, 10:43 pm
More lies and more lies. Its beyond the point where they cant keep them all straight. I would hate to be her lawyer or even affiliated with the Clinton's in any way. You would just have to feel a small piece of your soul die every day.
joemac
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? June 20th 2015, 10:39 am
joemac
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? June 20th 2015, 10:53 am
NBC's Brian Williams gets railed for his war story stretching, should have been fired, gets demoted to MSNBC which is just as good as being gone off TV. Clinton on her heroic survival war story "misspoke". Sorry misspeaking is saying sh!t when you should have said shoot. Misspeaking is saying the car has "5" wheels. No she lied, so many lies she can keep all the lies straight. Repercussions on her, candidate for POTUS.
joemac
Posts : 1916 Join date : 2013-04-17 Location : Texas
Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? June 20th 2015, 11:10 am
A special kind of evil in viewing death of another. Especially a supposed leader holding a top political position and candidate for POTUS. No matter the person, how deplorable, how despicable we might find them.
Curious Hillary, just a status on Libya, it's a failed state, Al-Qaeda and ISIS running all over it, chaos abounds, death by untold thousands has occurred, some untold amount by US bombs or provided weapons. What's success in Libya again, remind us Hillary.
What were the details of the weapons transfers being done out of the Benghazi consulate and the CIA annex? Did word spread about the weapons cache, did the "moderates" decide they wanted more than what we were giving them?
joemac
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? June 28th 2015, 6:23 pm
theshyguy
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Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? June 29th 2015, 10:59 pm
Just from the still I see for the above video, I think I may have just turned and am now playing for the other team.
joemac
Posts : 1916 Join date : 2013-04-17 Location : Texas
Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? June 30th 2015, 12:40 pm
The still is a distraction from the real content and context. American's can't seem to focus on anything past the headline. Programmed what to think, believe, and espouse. Lost their cognitive ability to form a thought on their own.
Case in point this person is a candidate POTUS. How this can even be a thought at this point defies any rational thought. Yet the people have allowed their representative government to be filled completely with such tyranny and evil.
joemac
Posts : 1916 Join date : 2013-04-17 Location : Texas
Subject: Re: Clinton for the Win? July 24th 2015, 10:46 am
The question the media can't seem to ask. Where do you get the authority Mrs. Clinton to comb your own emails and decide what's personnel, what's not, what's classified, what's not? Are all government employees granted the same authority?
How did you not violate the federal records act by hosting your own sole email account for government business? Allow me to read the statue and then you can respond.
The Federal records act upon your last day in office requires that you turn over all correspondence and documents you may have in possession. How are you not in violation of this statue?