Jackboot NSA at it again. Thanks Barry!!

Nazi a-holes

There is just not a damn thing our "government" won't do anymore. NOTHING.

But when Russia calls and tells them outright two muslims is going to blow our shit up, the ignore it completely, over and over again.

But they need to know what the hell I'm doing so they can keep me safe from myself.

69 years ago today, hundreds of thousands of men stormed the beaches of France to save us from this very tyranny. Look at the sad and embarrassing state we are in now.

In the governments eyes, we all have the potential to become a terrorist. It wouldn't surprise me to find they have a camera in every toilet to see what we crap out.

The government is so incompetent it probably doesn't make a difference.

The song for today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anLfoy2XsFw

Its ironic I've been reading this stuff for years outside of the mainstream, now suddenly everyone is surprised.

On each one of these items, if its gun control, personal privacy, terrorism they talk about middle ground ,compromising, or debate to meet in the middle. There is no compromise, the Constitution is hard and fast. If they want to ratify it, there's a legitimate process to do it with 2/3's of the states approving ratification. Yet the power structure isn't genuine in what they tell us on TV, behind closed doors and hiding behind everything national security there's an entire world of surveillance and war operation that goes against everything our country stands for, or at least once did. I'm ashamed of what our country is becoming.

joemac wrote:

There is no compromise, the Constitution is hard and fast. If they want to ratify it, there's a legitimate process to do it with 2/3's of the states approving ratification.

That's not how communists do things.

joemac wrote:

Yet the power structure isn't genuine in what they tell us on TV, behind closed doors and hiding behind everything national security there's an entire world of surveillance and war operation that goes against everything our country stands for, or at least once did. I'm ashamed of what our country is becoming.

The truth is there for all to see. To few see it now.

Until the stupid aquire some brains to vote with, we will continute heading down this same road. Stupidity is epidemic in this country.

What's concerning is none of them are genuine, none from either party. Two nice examples from the republican side are John McCain and Lindsey Graham. These two calhouns would have us fighting wars in 15 countries currently and have us here in the US all incarcerated as the domestic US is now a battleground in their mind. Meanwhile not paying for any of it.

The best the republican party can do is Mitt Romney?!?!?! They'll get beat again if they throw up another bland vanilla politician as the the next presidential candidate.

Republicans better do some serious soul searching or we're all going to be looking at Hilary for four or eight years.

Another thing that's seriously concerning is the Israeli influence. More over the amount of those that hold "dual" citizenship that are in Congress. There's around 40 of them currently. On can certainly question who they are representing, Israeli or the the US. This never gets spoken about and this NeoCon mindset isn't going to make friends anyway around the globe moreover we're going broke being Israeli's proxy instituting their agenda around the globe.

There is one country the entire world knows the United States will never waiver in defending, and that is Israel. If we back away from them and let Israel get squashed like a bug, we will lose what little respect we have left from our so called Allies. They are the proxy U.S.A. in that region of the world, we need them almost as much as they need us.

The Republicans do need to get a candidate choice soon or you are right, be prepared for 8 years of Hilary. She would still have to overcome Benghazi and can use the excuse that she had a concussion and doesn't remember much about it to become POTUS.

joemac wrote:

What's concerning is none of them are genuine, none from either party. Two nice examples from the republican side are John McCain and Lindsey Graham. These two calhouns would have us fighting wars in 15 countries currently and have us here in the US all incarcerated as the domestic US is now a battleground in their mind. Meanwhile not paying for any of it.

The best the republican party can do is Mitt Romney?!?!?! They'll get beat again if they throw up another bland vanilla politician as the the next presidential candidate.

Republicans better do some serious soul searching or we're all going to be looking at Hilary for four or eight years.

Another thing that's seriously concerning is the Israeli influence. More over the amount of those that hold "dual" citizenship that are in Congress. There's around 40 of them currently. On can certainly question who they are representing, Israeli or the the US. This never gets spoken about and this NeoCon mindset isn't going to make friends anyway around the globe moreover we're going broke being Israeli's proxy instituting their agenda around the globe.

I agree with everything you've stated. Romney was the best "establishment candidate", just as Dole was in the '96 election. The vast majority of senior republicans are RINO's. McCain, Graham, Boehner, Romney etc. Frustration with this is what led to the Tea Party movement within the republican party. The conservative members of the party are fed up with the republican establishment. While it looked like, after the 2010 election, the tea party exerted some influence on the establishment, the establishment is still entrenched in their old ways.

We are fighting this very battle within our own county republican party. The useless leadership/establishment mirrors the national party, and has resulted in the loss of a congressional seat here. As much as I hate the idea, I may have to step up to the plate for if nothing else, a seat on the local party commitee. There are two open seats in my township. This month is signature gathering time and I'm still wrestling with the decision. Some of the more conservative commiteemen are so fed up with the establishment they've lost interest. Perhaps with enough conservative members locally, we can effect change at the bottom. Part of me thinks it's a waste of time and effort but the other part says that appathy will do nothing to improve the situation. Complaining surely won't help.

One thing is for sure, the democrats (at least the party leadership and senior members) are nothing but communists. Some of us already know what the goals of communism are.

TheQuig wrote:

There is one country the entire world knows the United States will never waiver in defending, and that is Israel. If we back away from them and let Israel get squashed like a bug, we will lose what little respect we have left from our so called Allies. They are the proxy U.S.A. in that region of the world, we need them almost as much as they need us.

The Republicans do need to get a candidate choice soon or you are right, be prepared for 8 years of Hilary. She would still have to overcome Benghazi and can use the excuse that she had a concussion and doesn't remember much about it to become POTUS.

Some people question the legitimacy and integrity of the US Israeli relationship, and its not without precedence.

The Israeli lobbying in this country can't be understated with 40 plus Israeli citizens being in power as US federal representative and congress persons. Question becomes who's interest are they supporting, Israel or the US? Israel is just fine without us. They have 300 to 400 nuclear weapons. They lead the middle east in war mongering, always somehow attempting to involve us and bring us into the crap they stir up. They attempted to bring us into and coerce us into war with Egypt by bombing and attempting to sink the USS Liberty back in 1967 killing 34 US service men, then blame it on the Egyptians. This is a text book false flag. They bombed and strafed the ship for three plus hours, then later said it was a mistake in identification of the vesel flying the US flag. I have a finger for them. They continually occupy and take control of land that isn't theirs. They're motives are certainly suspect and don't pass integrity test with those that have seen the influence of their agenda here in the US. I'm not sure when Israel became the 51'st state of the union, but that's how it appears in practice.

Ironically the US provides them plenty of foreign aid (really military armaments) via the US tax payer. They're just fine. They don't need us, and I'm certain we don't need them for squat.

Then to top it off we have Israeli citizens wanting to dismantle what makes our country different, the Constitution. Israeli citizen Dianne Feinstein is on record she would love to have us all turn in our firearms if she could get the votes. She was sponsor of the assault weapons ban, and all the latest gun legislation that's being pushed. Her husband just got awarded the contract to sell US postal service facilities across the US, worth tens of millions of dollars of US tax payer dollars. Well Many don't care much for the scamming and contriving that goes on with this bunch and what they're attempting to do in our country. The same goes for Lindsey Graham and the rest of the Israeli citizens that are a wealthy controlling influence that is attempting to lead our country to places we don't need to go or get involved.

Many were called conspiracy theorists when this was mentioned previously for years. Now its safe to state its conspiracy fact. Now who's involved in conspiracy and who we should start impeaching now should be the plan of action going forward to retake our country.

For anyone that understands the PATRIOT Act is such on oxymoron on the meaning of the world "patriot" there some small sense of accomplishment that a small amount of this is actually being spoken about in the mainstream. The real issue goes much deeper and has for well over a decade now.

The reality is that we've just scratched the surface of the intelligence machine that's focused on the US. Somehow in the process we were declared the enemy. Many were happy to go along with that ideal without question.

http://theweek.com/article/index/245311/sources-nsa-sucks-in-data-from-50-companies

Since Obama is listening to all of our conversations hello Mr President and all of his other minions listening in too

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance

Intelligent and brave young man. Takes some gumption to go down the path he elected knowing the Goliath that will come after him.

At 10:47 into the video he lays out what our future will be unless we all demand and take action for change in our government in all branches at all levels.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/07/nsa-prism-records-surveillance-questions

Obama, wasn't he the one in Seal Team 6 that actually did the double tap on Osama? I put nothing past Obama, he can be trusted as much as Putin.

It's crazy how many intelligence data sifters there are and what the cost is to the US taxpayer. The evening news showed a huge new NSA building with an enormous parking (think football stadium sized) lot filled with automobiles. Within a few square miles surrounding that building were numerous defense contractor buildings.

The NSA continues to build these data farms. A new huge plant is now being built in Utah. I'm sure Sen McCain isn't complaining about this pork barrel spending.

Sounds like that leaker had no formal education, a bit of a checkered past, dropped out of high school, bounced from job to job, left the military early due to 2 broken legs in a fall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7BmdovYztH8

This has nothing to do with security, NOTHING. This is about control and unchecked power.

Diseasel wrote:

It's crazy how many intelligence data sifters there are and what the cost is to the US taxpayer. The evening news showed a huge new NSA building with an enormous parking (think football stadium sized) lot filled with automobiles. Within a few square miles surrounding that building were numerous defense contractor buildings.

The NSA continues to build these data farms. A new huge plant is now being built in Utah. I'm sure Sen McCain isn't complaining about this pork barrel spending.

I've read the cost to build this datacenter was $2 billion.

Diseasel wrote:

Sounds like that leaker had no formal education, a bit of a checkered past, dropped out of high school, bounced from job to job, left the military early due to 2 broken legs in a fall.

Not sure if struggles when young and attempting find ones life and career qualify one from an American patriot. On the flip side you the choice might be someone that we're told attended Harvard and Columbia, Constitutional law professor, lies to us constantly and is hell bent on destroying our Constitution and country.

We should demand an accounting of this activity. Since 9/11 the number of NSA vendors grew to 6000 from 140 prior to 9/11. And that's data from 2006 since the information is secret. It's a ridiculous waste of money on top of being intrusive. Time for emails to my congressmen.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-relies-spies-hire-sift-010900457.html

joemac wrote:

Diseasel wrote:

Sounds like that leaker had no formal education, a bit of a checkered past, dropped out of high school, bounced from job to job, left the military early due to 2 broken legs in a fall.

Not sure if struggles when young and attempting find ones life and career qualify one from an American patriot. On the flip side you the choice might be someone that we're told attended Harvard and Columbia, Constitutional law professor, lies to us constantly and is hell bent on destroying our Constitution and country.

Maybe not but it highlights how desperate the government and private defense contractors are to spend our future by hiring anyone to sift intelligence data.

How big is the US intelligence machine?

In 2012, the Washington Post released a report stating that there were 1,931 companies working on counterterror/intelligence/security in the United States, and 854,000 people working for these companies and government agencies had top secret security clearances

Picked that up from TheBlaze yesterday.

There are currently 16 intelligence agencies in the federal government.

This is another one of those large expenditures that aren't part of the DoD budget.

We spend 60% plus of all federal tax revenues on military and security. This includes federal withholding, corporate taxes, SSN and Medicare taxes as all of these contributions are rolled into the single general fund to be dispersed how they see fit, plus the additional $1.2 trillion annually we didn't collect to pay for what they're spending.

Looks like Obama is trying to distract the public. He's decided Syria used chemical agents and we now need to increase our military support for the rebels. 

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/13/politics/syria-us-chemical-weapons/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/04/11/syria-al-qaeda-connection/2075323/

So we're supporting the rebels, al-Qaeda in Syria, just so we can spend more money fighting them across other countries and contents across the globe?!?!?!  

Same premise with the mujahideen (al-Queda in Afghanistan 1980's) fighting the Russians, now turned on its head.  

Funding the groups that want to kill us.  That's smart thinking now.

Seems today they knowingly play both sides, knowing or desiring the outcome, wanting to fuel conflict just so we have excuses to get involved and buy more military stuff.  The defense industry isn't going to be raking in huge government contracts when there's no war or conflict.  Thus we create, enable, fund, and are covertly involved to initiate many of these instabilities around the globe.  Spreading democracy one bomb at a time.

Number one cause of death in the 20th century?  Democide, death by government.  The 20th century saw that more people die at the hands of government direction or action than in all centuries previously combined.

Sucking us into another war where whoever wins still hates the U.S. I hear the Syrian rebels will be taken off the no fly lists and be allowed to carry on planes.

Slick Willy just taught him Wag the Dog. Willy comes out in the morning for doing more in Syria and Barry plays right along later that same night. We need to rid ourselves from our rulers in some form or fashion.

I see that Jeb is getting geared up to run, that will solve all of our problems.  Or Hilary for eight years.  Our country seems doomed no matter which direction we go.

I mean this is the creme of the crop, best of the best?

Now Snowden is spilling the beans on a UK effort to steal information during the 2009 G-20 summit. He'll keep talking to make himself valuable to the Chinese. His true colors are coming out. He has to have a sizable price on his head.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/16/world/europe/nsa-leaks/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Don't fall for the landslide of bull$hit making this guy out to be a traitor. Each and every big time power broker is acting in unison to demonize this man. They are doing so because they have been exposed as the real traitors of this country. Not Snowden, the ruling elite. They have been and remain the traitors.

Exactly, as Snowden has simply supplied visibility into what the ruling elite have been doing in the deep confines of our everything is top secret government.

It's disingenuous when our clueless media starts ever segment with the hero or traitor labels.