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PostSubject: Trump   February 24th 2016, 11:08 am

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Looks like Trump is going to run away with the nomination from the GOP side. People are just sick of the never ending betrayals....too bad Trump is just another Democrat though....

If Trump picks Rubio as VP, and promises to appoint Cruz to take Scalia's place on the SCOTUS, he'd win in a Reagan Landslide.



Motive. What's Trumps motive? It's pretty clear, he's not the establishment pick. The establishment and Fox News has thrown everyone at him. None of it has worked. BHO motive is now clear. He wants to tear down every pillar that makes our country great. It's pretty clear he has a considerable disdain or outright hate for our country.

There's some uneasiness with Trump, absolutely. Much like there was with BHO in '08. What's he actually going to do once in office? We found out BHO he wasn't a man of his words. History shows he's subverted much of what he stated in the campaign, outright lied, and has ulterior motives of which you'll never hear him state publicly.

Pretty sad, but the current state of our system (two party) doesn't leave a lot of choices. The relatively clear choice currently is establishment versus non-establishment.

Trump as loud and as clear has he's stated, building the wall, immigration, auditing the Fed, releasing the 28 pages. If he doesn't deliver, he himself has set the bar high. There's a possibility, looking at his support numbers, to create an uprising not seen in our country for many decades. Real American's have become impatient and are tired of being lied to.

If he doesn't deliver. Look for the next election cycle to be the peoples choice, and not one of an outsider of situation convenience like Trump.

I wouldn't think it can get much worse than the Manchurian candidate we have now occupying POTUS.
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PostSubject: Re: Trump   February 24th 2016, 5:49 pm

I like the fact that Trump says what's on his mind. Sometimes I don't like the fact that Trump says is on his mind. Americans are sick of politically correct, but are foreign governments going to give him the respect he will have as POTUS, or will they have contempt for him like they do Obama? I don't know, but for sure I am voting Republican.

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PostSubject: Re: Trump   February 24th 2016, 6:35 pm

I don't think foreign governments will have nearly the same outright contempt and disrespect for him as they show Obama.

But it is entertaining watching the establishment on all sides, including the media, imploding as his momentum builds.

If he dominates Super Tuesday, like it looks like he will, watch as the shameless barking clowns start to align behind him.

And the Democrats are in denial if they don't think what he's done to the GOP can and will happen to them behind someone similar...look how many desperate souls longing for ANYTHING have lined up behind a dementia rattled Bernie....they are ripe for the taking too.

Americans everywhere are sick of establishment, professional, career politicians and there endless lies. That might be the one thing that unifies the average American once again. Our common disgust of everything DC.
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PostSubject: Re: Trump   February 26th 2016, 5:42 pm

WTF?!?!?!

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/chris-christie-endorses-donald-trump-president-n526716

He takes all the crap back he said previously. So it's the I was against it before I was for it. Not sure if this is the GOP's attempt to subvert the Trump campaign with establishment by any means necessary, but I wouldn't let down the guard.
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PostSubject: Re: Trump   February 26th 2016, 8:04 pm

What ever it takes to keep Hilary out of the White House.

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PostSubject: Re: Trump   February 27th 2016, 6:22 pm

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What ever it takes to keep Hilary out of the White House.

... +1

No dog in this hunt yet- I have reservations about all on the Republican stage. That said, there isn't a one of them who wouldn't be a better choice than the serial liar or the socialist running on the Dem. side.
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PostSubject: Re: Trump   February 27th 2016, 7:04 pm

It's a tough choice, aka cream of the crap. Right now Trump might be the cream.
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PostSubject: Re: Trump   February 28th 2016, 12:08 am

I honestly think he would be worse for executive power than Obama has been. He is used to getting his way by throwing his weight(wealth) around. Imagine what he would do as POTUS!
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PostSubject: Re: Trump   February 28th 2016, 12:39 pm

The way I see it we have no choice but to go with Trump. He got to the top in a very political atmosphere and he is not a favorite in the party. If he does not get the nomination, I don't see the country supporting any other Republican candidate in large numbers.
People like Trump because for good or bad, he says what he thinks. I have my doubts, but think he is our only chance to take the White House.

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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 6th 2016, 2:17 pm

Megyn Kelly 2016 Is Candy Crowley 2012

Fox anchor blows critical fact, but media awarded cred for attacking GOP candidates (especially Donald Trump)

http://observer.com/2016/03/megyn-kelly-2016-is-candy-crowley-2012/

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Megyn Kelly said of the school, which has become a talking point for Mr. Trump’s opponents, “The rating from the Better Business Bureau was a D-minus. That’s the last publicly available rating.”

Mr. Trump replied, “It was elevated to an A.”

Ms. Kelly argued with Mr. Trump, saying, “That’s never been publicly available.”

Then she proceeded to shush both Mr. Trump and Mr. Rubio, who was clearly delighted that Ms. Kelly was doing his bidding, as he’s made Trump University the centerpiece of his knocks on Mr. Trump.

She said, “Let me just set the record straight and then you can have at it.”

At this point, Ms. Kelly walked through the substance of the case, noting that there were 5,000 plaintiffs, and all the rest, even comparing Mr. Trump to Bernie Madoff and putting on screen an incendiary quote from the judge that certified the class action case for the Ninth Circuit. All of this is fine, if a bit over the top in its detail, considering that no other candidate was subjected to this kind of produced set piece (Mr. Trump also got the TV-clip mashup treatment that he missed when he skipped the last Fox debate).

But the problem is two-fold. First, Ms. Kelly appointed herself fact-checker here, exactly as Ms. Crowley had done four years ago. By correcting Mr. Trump in saying, “That’s never been publicly available,” she is no longer simply refereeing but awarding points, as well. Second, she’s wrong. And she had to have known it.

Just three days earlier, NBC News ran an extensive exploration of the “ratings” question. It was a fact-check piece based on Mr. Trump making the same “A Rating” claim on Meet the Press. In a story headlined “Better Business Bureau: Trump Right on ‘A’ Rating — Mostly,” NBC concluded that the rating did indeed fluctuate, as he indicated at the debate.

The story reads, “In fact, according to the rating agency, Trump appears to have undersold things—at times in the past, his ‘university’ had an A-plus rating.” It goes on to say, “But it’s not all good news for the Republican front-runner. The BBB’s ratings are ‘dynamic’ and are based on a constantly shifting algorithm, meaning they’re changing all the time. And over the years, the company’s rating had fallen as far as D-minus—an assessment Trump chose not to mention Sunday.”

Yet Ms. Kelly said that the “A Rating” had “never been publicly available.”

Naturally, the campaigns of Mr. Trump’s rivals ate it up. Just as predictably, the media quickly applauded Ms. Kelly’s acumen.

“Megyn Kelly is Donald Trump’s toughest adversary in GOP debate,” opined CNNMoney‎, while the Huffington Post wrote, “Fox News host Megyn Kelly may as well have been on the debate stage at Thursday’s Republican presidential debate in Detroit, because she wiped the floor with real estate mogul Donald Trump.” Salon delighted in how “Trump’s arch-nemesis strikes back” and “went for the jugular.”

But the question remains: Should debate moderators really be “wiping the floor” and “going for the jugular” with candidates? Even when—especially when—they’re wrong on the facts?

During a commercial break Trump handed Megyn a document from the BBB showing the rating. This didn't warrant any correction from the supposed journalist for reporting the facts and correcting the record.

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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 6th 2016, 4:38 pm

There was a time that I liked Megan Kelly's aggressive approach but as of late she only hears what she wants and shuts the guests down before they can respond.

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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 6th 2016, 9:18 pm

Yep I used to record her every night, not anymore for a couple months now. She's taken a very staunch turn toward activist laced agenda, more so than true investigative integrity. She used to be the one at Fox that was different. Guess it was just a matter of time.
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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 7th 2016, 4:55 pm

http://www.infowars.com/cnn-commentator-trump-will-institute-internment-camps-and-suspend-habeas-corpus/

The establishment and associated media followers are throwing all derogative terms into the lexicon to see if they can get anything, anything at all to stick. Even with nothing to substantiate their premonitions, they're tossing in anything and everything.

The people that had the control in it's entirety are really scared that the genie is out of the bottle. The media who previously controlled the message and topics are beside themselves, and in total panic mode as the people might just have an avenue to reclaim something.
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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 15th 2016, 3:38 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 15th 2016, 4:22 pm

I don't think the establishment has figured out we hate ALL the professional politicians, no matter what "side" they claim to be own...because we all know, they are on THEIR SIDE only.

They are too damned narcissistic to even consider THEY are the problem. People know Trump isn't going to get most of hos wild ass promises passed, but we know even more surely that the establishment, no matter what they promise, is pure bullshit.

In short, we want a fresh new liar that might just happen to get something positive done.

Any and all hope of getting something positive done by the establishment has long been lost.

America is just sick and tired of watching the same old bad actors running for eternal re-election on zero accomplishments other than becoming multi-millionaires as they pile debt on top of debt.

Our infrastructure lays in ruin. Cities water supplies are poisoned beyond repair, industry is sold to the highest bidder, slaves are imported to take our jobs, retirement plans are raided and left broke, and we get more and more regulations, more taxes, and have to work until the last shovel of dirt is piled on.

The 1% has gotten more rich, more powerful as the middle class is robbed blind. Having a job, being a respectable tax paying citizen, trying to do what's right, is all now politically incorrect and under attack.

And it's the establishment thats feeding all of this.

And now they are scared.

That's why I'm going to vote for Trump. Just to fuck the establishment in the only tiny manner I can. And if enough others will do, it will be as epic of a fucking this country's citizens have given to our rulers since we booted the inbred Royalty and political establishment of England out 200+ years ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 16th 2016, 1:26 am

Finally Rubio pulls his head of out his arse. Kasich should do the same. Cruz will probably lie and cheat in an effort to collect all delegates at the convention. And now Paul Ryan says he would accept the nomination upon a contested convention. Romney is probably hoping for the same. This is becoming un-fricken-believable.

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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 16th 2016, 10:13 am

This game change has been in the works since the Republican paryt realized Trump had a chance to win.

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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 16th 2016, 11:41 am

Every news and opinion show now just comes right now and evaluates scenarios of which they opine that can stop Trump. Outrageous. They, all of them, media and politicians really show their true colors now. They're reaching for everything. Doesn't seem that most anyone with a conscience is buying any of their BS. It's actually fun to watch them in panic desperation as scheme after scheme to upset the movement doesn't have any effect.
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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 16th 2016, 12:11 pm



Would be nice if Sean would shut up for a moment and let the guy sink his how ship. Some of us would like to discover how demented and demonstrable destructive these people are. Would like to understand their anarchistic ideals and skewed sense of morality.

So Sean shut the hell up for a moment.
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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 16th 2016, 12:32 pm

Boehner putting Paul Ryan in the mix for plan C at the convention. Next up will be the kitchen sink.

Paul thanks for your conservative principals on that trillion dollar spending bill that just passed your house.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/boehner-endorses-paul-ryan-for-president-220855
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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 16th 2016, 2:18 pm

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/16/we-choose-the-nominee-not-the-voters-senior-gop-official.html

The GOP asshats are certainly incentivizing those undecided and even those that were even slightly skeptical of their motives.  Nothing does it better when it's stated that the voters vote, doesn't matter doesn't count.  We the establishment that run the show don't give a crap about the voter.

Carlin said it best.  This should be put on a screen in the voting booth and before people get to vote, this little snippet is played.



With this kind of crap the GOP has the very real chance of handing the country over to Hillary for eight years, all the while sending the GOP to it's demise as a populist/national party comes together.  It's a pretty real deal.  The GOP is all in with nothing but a pair of two's.
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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 16th 2016, 2:51 pm

Typical political BS. Hopefully that jerk, "Curly", saying there's no sense holding primaries is quickly put in his place.


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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 16th 2016, 3:01 pm

The ENTIRE establishment is united against Trump, to the point that panicked little assholes are finally spewing truth...that our elections flatly do not matter. THEY choose. We lose.

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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 16th 2016, 8:10 pm

The Republican Party is just blind to the fact or mostly likely don't care that the average Republican voter is outraged that the party is going to put in who they want regardless of the popular vote.

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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 16th 2016, 11:29 pm

Yet again the Republicans doing everything they can to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. Not that I am a Trump fan as you all know but this will doom the Rep ticket.
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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 17th 2016, 10:09 am

Some of the things Trump says really make me wonder, but anyone else running is just spouting out party line dribble that tells us if the don't go with Trump we will be stuck with what he had before which is totally unexceptable.

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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 17th 2016, 11:08 am

It's well understood that most don't agree with absolutely everything any candidate espouses. Or things that are stated, least from Trump, aren't the most eloquently stated. And that's fine, we're all imperfect. So yep there's risk with Trump absolutely. Issue is, what's the next choice in this contrived two party system with the illusion of choice? The current choices are pretty deplorable.
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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 18th 2016, 12:07 am

joemac wrote:
It's well understood that most don't agree with absolutely everything any candidate espouses.   Or things that are stated, least from Trump, aren't the most eloquently stated.  And that's fine, we're all imperfect.  So yep there's risk with Trump absolutely.  Issue is, what's the next choice in this contrived two party system with the illusion of choice?  The current choices are pretty deplorable.

Not sure I could have said it better myself.
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PostSubject: Re: Trump   March 20th 2016, 4:11 pm

joemac wrote:
 The current choices are pretty deplorable.

That's an understatement. The current administration makes the Nixon administration look like a bunch of choir boys- Nixon was impeached for far less than these cretins have done. If Clinton had a R after her name she'd be under indictment.

"The contents of Sid Blumenthal’s June 8, 2011, email to Hillary Clinton—to her personal, unclassified account—were based on highly sensitive NSA information ...

To anybody familiar with intelligence reporting, this unmistakably signals intelligence, termed SIGINT in the trade. In other words, Mr. Blumenthal, a private citizen who had enjoyed no access to U.S. intelligence for over a decade when he sent that email, somehow got hold of SIGINT about the Sudanese leadership and managed to send it, via open, unclassified email, to his friend Ms. Clinton only one day later."
http://observer.com/2016/03/hillary-has-an-nsa-problem/

Some say the fix is already in- DOJ will refuse to indite.

Sanders is just another economically illiterate socialist  ... socialism (totalitarianism with a smile) being just another stop on the road to serfdom. Sooner or later you run out of other peoples money.

The other side doesn't give me much cause for hope other than anyone of them would be better than the dem's are serving up. Cruz's wife works for Wall Street ... that her husband is a U.S. Senator had nothing to do with her getting the job ... right (note extreme sarcasm). Trump is a big fan of eminent domain which makes me nervous. What makes me even far more nervous are the attempts to shut Trump down, both on the left and on the right. I fear for our country- it is no longer, "We, The People".

“However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.” - George Washington
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