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PostSubject: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyJanuary 26th 2015, 12:18 am

The US covertly meddles in countries across the globe constantly.

We got busted in Cuba.  

USAID is commonly used as a front or CIA or CIA like efforts.  Front and public the "humanitarian" card is played.  Behind the scenes ulterior things are in play.  USAid worker Alan Gross has been jailed in Cuba since 2009, just released days ago.

http://cir.ca/news/usaid-contractor-released-from-cuban-prison

Zero press on it.  Why?  Alan was involved in more than the humanitarian act of providing internet access to Cubans.  USAid just settled with Alan paying him $3 million plus in hush money.  He was originally asking for $7 million.  The millions secures Alan's silence, and no press coverage.

Alan our first rodeo in Cuba, he just so happen to get caught.  There have been others.  Again zero press.

USAid along with software developers hired by USAid were attempting to create a social network much like twitter, called ZunZuneo, to be used to gain access to young Cuban's and to rile up support for protest, angst and ultimately overthrow of the Cuban government.  

A plan very similar was set in play in Libya, Egypt, and now Ukraine.  

http://pando.com/2014/04/08/the-murderous-history-of-usaid-the-us-government-agency-behind-cubas-fake-twitter-clone/

Twitter and youtube are ripe what what appears to be hints of covert US meddling in Ukraine.  Through the previously established playbook, the US was able enable the overthrow of Viktor Yanukovych and the Ukrainian government to have our boy Petro Poroshenko installed as President and lead the way to join NATO.

Twitter and YouTube are ripe with American fingerprints.  Including some very English speaking Ukrainians.   :40 seconds into this clip.

Unfortunately, there are many others.

Now we learn officially that US advisers will be now arriving in Western Ukraine to aid with training.  All the while the new NATO Ukraine government continues to shell the eastern portion of the country that are very loyal and storied Russian.  All of this activity on Russian border.  We're so brazen it's suicidal, like we want to start WWIII.  There are some serious psychopathic people involved and calling the shots on these covert actions of the State Department and the CIA.

We wonder why no one likes us anymore.  Unrest creates chaos and instability.  The perfect recipe to warrant the public use the US Military to combat these threats.  Self initiated, fulfilling prophecy.

Do we understand that WWIII won't be fought with sticks and stones?


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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyJanuary 26th 2015, 1:36 am

Ukraine can't join NATO. It doesn't meet the requirements.

I'm actually waiting to see what they do with Turkey. It is becoming unstable and not fit for NATO membership.

As for US meddling; yeah, so? That's global politics.... we all meddle in everyone else's stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyJanuary 26th 2015, 8:00 am

Ever hear of Russian spies? These days no country can sit back and watch the world go round. Secret ops are dirty but necessary.
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyJanuary 26th 2015, 12:44 pm

There is no doubt in my mind that if the U.S. was in the same position of Russia, we would have taken over the Crimea and the only port that does not freeze over the winter. We refuse to leave Cuba and wonder why Russia does not leave the Ukraine, same reason, covering our ass.

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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyJanuary 28th 2015, 12:19 am

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Ukraine can't join NATO. It doesn't meet the requirements.  

I'm actually waiting to see what they do with Turkey. It is becoming unstable and not fit for NATO membership.

As for US meddling; yeah, so? That's global politics.... we all meddle in everyone else's stuff.

So?  Ukraine borders with Russia.  I guess if we're looking to start WWIII just go balls in.

I mean the US would have zero issue with China or Russia instigating and enabling an overthrow of Mexico or Canada.  Sending in mercenaries and military advisers.

Last I checked a similar situation occurred 90 miles of the US coastline 1962 we nearly went to war, thermonuclear exchange with Russia.  So it's likely a big deal.

We are brazen has ever. In December of 2014 Natalie Ann Jaresko an American-born, American citizen and Ukrainian businesswoman was named Ukraine's Minister of Finance. Oh gee. Wonder if she'll work with the IMF and EU on getting Ukraine billions in exchange for some corporate engagement.

The US people have been continually lied to about the actual occurrence and why in Ukraine.

http://www.dw.de/about-dw/who-we-are/s-3325

Crimea was per treaty provided to Ukraine, with Ukraine leasing a portion of the naval base there from Russia.   Upon the Soviet Union collapse the treaties also involved removed the nuclear weapons from Ukraine with Russia taking ownership.  Ukraine also has an obligation to protect the ethic history and culture of Russian people within Ukraine.

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The Friendship Treaty also ensures "the protection of the ethnic, cultural, linguistic, and religious originality of national minorities on their territory" and the creation of "conditions for the encouragement of that originality." Although not stated explicitly, this passage presumably refers to the large Russian minority in Ukraine as well as Ukrainian communities in Russia.

There is reciprocity here. With obligations of both Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine has failed to keep true to the integrity of the involved treaties.

Upon the USAID cover the CIA and contractor mercenaries along with , the US state department funded over 60 Non-Government Organizations NGO's to creating descent and gen up propaganda and uprising. Here's the neutered version... about $5 billion promoting democracy.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/mar/19/facebook-posts/united-states-spent-5-billion-ukraine-anti-governm/

Russia took control of Crimea protecting it's asset in the Naval base there.

And now the US, EU, and NATO screwing around in Ukraine.  This isn't some brown people with homemade roadside bombs or AK's being fired from the hip.

http://au.ibtimes.com/us-threatens-russia-new-nuclear-missiles-prepares-new-sanctions-putin-1397555

Our response, we're going to consider military countermeasures, and redeploy nuclear missiles.  We're insane.  This isn't a game. We currently can place a nuclear warhead anywhere in the world many times over, via many different methods. Russia can do the same.  You don't get any do overs with a thermonuclear exchange.  The reality is if one just one is let go.  Mutually assured destruction, is a likely conclusion. The neocons have gone to a point of insanity that blows past the current definition. We had a real chance to have a good relationship with Russia both that's beneficial to both them and the US. Merely having conversation, trade, diplomacy. They have oil reserves that rival the ME. That's not our MO any longer. We like to drop bombs and wars way too much. I would caution us on starting a war with people and a country that can actually fight back. Russia can be pretty determined and dedicated to protect what it is they have. 20 million of them died in WWII more than any other country.

Big Ag even has a play in Ukraine. As they move closer and closer to bringing Ukraine into the EU and NATO. Ukraine was dismantled, never fear the IMF is here for funding. They offered $17 billion in exchange for many stipulations. One was biotech agriculture. Monsanto is now ready to sink its teeth into Ukraine. Ukraine is now ripe for the corporate pickens. When there's no new markets to jump into. How about the United States forcefully open up a new one. That's the way we roll.

We and Europe sanctioned Germany after they lost WW1 and Japan prior to WW2. Both of them went to war because of the conditions the sanctions caused for them. We have instituted sanctions against a lot of countries but never against a global nuclear power as Russia. Our crazed maniacs in charge of the insane assallium want to destabilize and collapse the economy of a country that has the capability to totally destroy all life in this country in less than 30 minutes. Sounds smart. What's the desired outcome? The positive benefit? I'm struggling with the many likely positive outcomes that they know about but haven't informed us. I do wish they would tell.
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyFebruary 1st 2015, 1:43 pm

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Ukraine can't join NATO. It doesn't meet the requirements.  

Well don't believe the official handshake is necessary in the world of corruption, behind closed door deals, filling pockets with cash, and seeking out authority and power.

NATO seems to be unphased.  NATO as usual.  Meaning the US is 90% of the NATO cover.  Just another way for the US to spread out that military spend, under a different label.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29204505

The US is more of a danger to the US than any foreign country.  We're so blinded by our own propaganda we can't see straight.  People with a straight face are talking about war with Russia?  Over what?  What countries have they invaded for decades, conducted military operations, and setup permanent bases?  None qualify.  It's alleged one, but absolute overwhelming concrete evidence is severely lacking.  Yet with the US we're still actively bombing seven countries.  And likely others in Africa there simply isn't enough reporting on to hear about. Interesting Russia is the aggressor, yet the US is occupying and bombing countries around the globe. Interesting logic. If Russia is the aggressor, what are we?

Curious with Russia what kind of war do these calhouns believe we can simply have with Russia.  What will Russia's reaction be?  We seem increasing braven and stupid many times over.  How's that war associated with WMD's going?  Now are we going to pony up with a country that has a real military capability and a nuclear weapons arsenal that can destroy the entire world many times over?  Sounds like a great idea with a well thought out plan and success criteria.


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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyFebruary 1st 2015, 1:47 pm

Images from NATO's peace programme

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The exercise brings together troops from several Nato member states and from former Soviet-bloc countries that are part of Nato's Partnership for Peace programme.
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyFebruary 2nd 2015, 11:46 pm

$3 billion in US tax payer aid to Ukraine claims
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a “stronger Ukrainian military” will increase the prospects for “negotiation of a peaceful settlement,” and will “make clear that the West will not accept the use of force to change borders in Europe.”

http://benswann.com/report-former-u-s-officials-propose-supplying-ukraine-with-3-billion-in-military-aid/

Like a drug addict, we can't help ourselves.


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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyFebruary 3rd 2015, 4:16 pm

Let's face it, If Russia want the Ukraine they will take it and the U.S. can do nothing about it with the exception of threatening Russia with more sanctions. The U.S. has turned into all bark and no bite. We have the best military in the world at the present time but are slowly letting it turn into an ineffective force by not let them do the job that needs to be done.

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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyFebruary 3rd 2015, 4:42 pm

What would be a good plan of attack for US Military involvement in Ukraine? What's Putin's objective with Ukraine?
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyFebruary 3rd 2015, 5:10 pm

Putin wants to push back NATO away from his border. He still considers the Ukraine part of Russia.

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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyFebruary 5th 2015, 12:15 pm

Ukraine hasn't been a member of NATO.  Though that doesn't stop NATO's persistent sales campaign.  When that doesn't work a coup is created to oust the Ukrainian President who didn't want to be involved with NATO.  Now that Poroshenko is in power thanks to the USA, NATO again is trying for the big push.

IT's intersting to watch the western media coverage and how slanted it is.  Yet there's raw video from all over Ukraine that tells a different story.   Our media chooses to not show this content and the story behind it.  Why?

One particular is Kiev lead Ukrainian military coming into towns and villages and taking young men from the town the forcing them to fight for the Kiev NATO aligned military.  Loading the young men up on buses and taking them away.  Mothers and families begging pleading and crying, trying to block the buses from taking their sons.  Terrible situation when the people of the country simply don't want to be force in killing of their own countrymen.  Go NATO?

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President Petro Poroshenko, who the US, along with the Europeans and NATO, helped place in power after last year’s coup, has declared that he has “no doubt” America’s taxpayers will provide the lethal weapons he desires to fight the separatists in eastern Ukraine. I never had any doubt, either. Of course it’s all to stop “Russian aggression.” NATO’s expansionism is never considered an important issue in the very dangerous war.

Our policy in Ukraine is a far cry from “neutrality,” staying out of the internal affairs of others, or avoiding entangling alliances. It is more like being the policeman of the world and claiming the title of the greatest arms manufacturer of all history. The military-industrial complex must be pleased with its repeated successes.

I’m sure the neo-cons are also ecstatic. And sadly it looks like Sen. Lindsey Graham may get his way and get US troops further involved.

The claimed need for our sending lethal weapons to Ukraine is to combat the Russian troops supposedly already in Ukraine. Yet the propagandists never provide any evidence to verify this assertion.

Both sides are now recruiting and even drafting the young to prepare them to do the fighting. There’s evidence that resistance is building to this effort. It would be nice if the young victims of wars started by old people and foreigners would just go on strike and refuse to fight. Let the instigators of the war put their own “boots on the ground.” - Ron Paul
 

http://www.infowars.com/no-doubt-us-taxpayers-will-be-robbed-to-arm-poroshenko/

We'd think we'd have learned a thing or two about placing "advisers" into conflict zones.  Vietnam, Iraq, Syria.  Advisers seem to be the predecessor to war.  Seems like a good thing to dump billions of borrowed US tax dollars into since we're flush with cash assets at the moment.

Only issue here is that the "enemy" we define is Russia someone who is quite capable if provoked.  When the body bags start coming back to our shores in the thousands maybe someone might pay attention and evaluate our actions differently.  That's if they play war nice.  Does the US desire a nuclear exchange with Russia?  Our end goal here is what.  Lindsey nor any of the neo-cons ever lay out the multi year anticipated result from actions we're taking now.  Lindsey and John should explain this, but they never will.
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyFebruary 5th 2015, 2:02 pm

The Ukraine wants to become a NAT member, Russia doesn't like it one bit. At this time there is no way NATO will vote and let the Ukraine become a member.

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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyFebruary 5th 2015, 2:30 pm

NATO will likely desire long before Ukraine ever becomes a member.
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyFebruary 5th 2015, 4:07 pm

Americans are conditioned to think we need to get in the middle of everything.
News shows a one sided picture of what is happening, shows some bloody kids, a mother crying and BAAMMMM...we need to get involved because we are the only good guys on the entire planet.

They never tell you we started most of the shit to begin with.
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyFebruary 5th 2015, 9:24 pm

We are the World Police. We have "interests" all over the world so we try to step in all over the world and make people do what we want. I like to think most of us, even our politicians,are doing things for the right reason and with a good heart. But it still isn't our business.

I meant to say NATO would desolve before Ukraine ever became a member. It's a paper tiger unless the US acts. We have footed the Europeans defense for decades so they could spend their money on socialistic ideals and failed on nearly all of them (now we are following in their footsteps voluntarily). During the Libya conflict (wasn't a war according to Obama) the lure were NATO ships run in out of missiles. Germany was flying to Iraq a few years ago and they never made it because the planes had mechanical issues. None of the planes made it! And their Minister of Defense was on one of the planes. Germany is the biggest economy in Europe with the biggest military and it's a joke.

we need to get our own house in order before telling others how to clean theirs.
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyFebruary 9th 2015, 4:33 pm

US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey R. Pyatt.



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Yesterday’s leak of the flagrant telephone talk between the US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey R. Pyatt has already hit the international media headlines. In short, it turned out that the US officials were coordinating their actions on how to install a puppet government in Ukraine. They agreed to nominate Bat’kyvshchina Party leader Arseniy Yatseniuk as Deputy Prime Minister, to bench Udar Party leader Vitaly Klitschko from the game for a while and to discredit neo-Nazi Svoboda party chief Oleh Tiahnybok as “Yanukovych’s project”. Then Mrs. Nuland informed the US Ambassador that the UN Secretary General, Under-Secretary for Political Affairs Jeffrey  Feltman had already instructed Ban Ki-moon to send his special envoy to Kyiv this week “to glue things together”. Referring to the European role in managing Ukraine’s political crisis, she was matchlessly elegant: “F@ck the EU”.
In a short while, after nervious attempts to blame Russians in fabricating (!) the tape (State Department: “this is a new low in Russian tradecraft”), Mrs. Nuland made her apologies to the EU officials.


Here we have the precursor details of the coup as run by the US with NGO's out of the US Embassy.

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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyFebruary 9th 2015, 4:38 pm

Eastern Ukraine is reporting that mercenaries speaking English, Polish, French and Flemish are operating in Ukraine. Evidence forthcoming.
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyFebruary 9th 2015, 9:48 pm

I just keep thinking how the Obama team kept saying how bad the Bush administration screwed up our international affairs and reputation. They had nothing on these know - nothings.
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Ohh yea.  Add on top of that the $2 Trillion.  Yes trillion with a T that Donald Rumsfeld announced on 9/10/01 that the Pentagon couldn't account for.  This never got reported amazingly as the next day there was an event that did get reported.

Then today you read that the CIA is losing money it doles out, and being extorted.  We think we're so smart.  We can pick winners and losers, buy our friends.  We can't be taken advantage of.

Millions going to terrorist organizations.....
http://www.infowars.com/new-york-times-reports-u-s-giving-al-qaeda-millions-of-dollars/

Just $12 billion here flown into a war zone on pallets, lost, unaccounted for.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/08/usa.iraq1
Freshly printed, brand new $100 bills on pallets. Who thinks this stuff up? Who signs off and authorizes this? Put names on this!
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It's non-stop.

This country is absolutely drunk and stupid all at the same time.  The citizenry couldn't give a rats ass.
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyMarch 21st 2015, 2:11 pm

Our thirst for war is unfathomable.  We're drunk on the blood from the wars in multiple countries over the last 13 years. The only difference is Russia can actually fight back.

General Robert Scales, "The only way the United States can have any effect in this region and turn the tide is start killing Russians. Killing Russians by… Killing so many Russians that even Putin’s media can’t hide the fact that Russians are returning to their motherland in body bags.

http://rt.com/usa/239633-scales-ukraine-kill-russians/

General Scales, I have  question.  What will the Russian's reaction be when we start killing Russians?  JFK asked General LeMay this same question in 1962 during the 13 days of the Cuban missile crisis.  LeMay responded with, "Nothing".  Glad JFK had some rational sense.  The crew that's in charge now?!?!?  We're in trouble.  Big trouble.

To further the plan, pulling out the same Ukraine playbook for Armenia, Kyrgyzstan, and Uzbekistan. And we're still screwing around in Georgia.  Same cast of US delegates involved in Ukraine are now deployed and doing their thing.

http://www.infowars.com/russia-under-attack/
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyApril 22nd 2015, 12:24 pm

The United States Secretly built ‘Cuban Twitter’ to stir unrest.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/the-united-states-secretly-built-cuban-twitter-to-81582343243.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-secretly-built-cuban-twitter-but-why/

This is what was done in Sudan, Egypt, Libya, Georgia, Syria, Iran, Ukraine, Turkey, Cuba and the U.S.

These covert CIA operations go on uncontested by our congress. Remember that all these covert operations must be approved by one person, the president of the U.S.  The countries that discovered what was going on, Russia, China and N. Korea, have blocked Twitter knowing good and well the US is looking for an opportunity to infiltrate and provocateur.

Yes, Bill O'Reilly it is our fault!!!! But , we all know you are "looking out" for all of us.
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyApril 27th 2015, 8:40 pm

US Special Operations forces 70,000 strong, $10 billion, and in 81 countries.  More like an mercenary empire with zero rules of engagement.

http://www.wsj.com/article_email/sun-never-sets-on-u-s-commandos-1429887473-lMyQjAxMTE1MDIyNDMyODQ1Wj
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyJune 8th 2015, 11:19 pm

What's old is new again.  Seems like they can't get enough of this manual.  We love our proxy wars, almost as much as the real deal.  Better stated, we just like war.



We are so full of ourselves. Can't think beyond our shoelaces.
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyOctober 2nd 2015, 4:20 pm

https://twitter.com/FearDept/status/649237697643417603/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Looking into The White Helmets NGO, have associations from Soros' Open Society Foundation, MoveOn.org, with people leading the charge that span activity at OSF and other subrodinate organizations.  White Helmets is active on all the social media.  Same MO as we used in Cuba, Ukranine, Egypt and others.

The State Department, USAID, and CIA cover organization NGO's with funding from Soros are going to start a nuclear war.  Will we be happen then?
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyOctober 13th 2015, 10:32 am

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/12/politics/syria-rebel-groups-ammunition-50-tons/index.html

MSM finally provided a small snippet of an activity that's been going on for years with no mention. 50 tons of supplies provided by the CIA to rebel groups. We're arrogant to think that these weapons and supplies are only used against the factions that favor the US. This stuff is used to barter for whatever individual motives are in play by whoever finds it. Who in the US is responsible when TOW anti-tank weapons that we drop are used against our military, kill and maim our soldiers? Blood is on our own hands. We know not it is what we do.

Many US military intel, and commanders have stated there are no moderate rebels, this isn't the narrative that keeps the lie going made evident every day by the civilians in our government. All these "rebel" groups are out there, killing, conquering, taking assets that have been put into play by the US's proxy meddling. It's manufactured chaos, so that we have an enemy to blame and fight. The stronger the US can make the enemy and the threat, the easier it is to convince the ignorant American people that we need more war.

In the mean time seems Russia has wiped out considerable ISIS personal, stores, C&C, infrastructure in the last couple weeks than the US has done over multiple years. I guess where there's no ulterior games going in behind the scenes creating and ever bigger badder boogie man, a mission can be accomplished.

http://www.infowars.com/is-barack-obama-actually-trying-to-start-world-war-iii/

The US's hand is shown when Russia has success in a short order and the administration keeps harping that Russia is supporting the Syrian government, of which the US wants to fail. The question no one in ht MSM asks is, if the Syrian government is toppled, what replaces it? No one asks who the are the US enemies in Syria? Is it the Syrian government or ISIS? Is the US attempting to use the Libya failed state model in Syria? Who gave us the authority to topple secular governments across the globe? Libya, Ukraine, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen? And we wonder why the world hates us. Added benefit thousands of refugees now coming to your community. Boy sounds like fun.

Then there's implications that one mistake or even fabrication like the Gulf of Tonkin incident, that we now know never happened. Yet was the catalyst that got the US actively engaged into Vietnam with 60k US dead, 150k wounded, and 2500 missing.

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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyOctober 13th 2015, 11:09 am

I agree with what you just said. My only question is has Russia yet made the impact in fighting that they claim? It could be, but they lie as well as our government. There is no denying the people of the area think Putin is the savior in Syria and in parts or Iraq. Too many years have passed since the Gulf wars with America toppling governments and not have a follow up plan on how to rule them. Not all countries are going to be democratic, and it is not our place to change the world. We'll see how Russia makes out in Syria, and I hope they can at least stop ISIS. The U.S. has no one to blame for the failures in the mid-east but the U.S.

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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyOctober 13th 2015, 12:01 pm

Well the Russian embassy in Syria just came under attack by rocket fire.  The head of al-Nursa in Syria Abu Mohamed al-Jolani, is now rallying to kill Russian's by stating "an eye for an eye".  Russians must have done something to stir them.

Multiple media outlets outside of the Russia state media and US MSM are reporting on the Russian strikes.  Russia is putting all their gun camera footage online and offering up daily information on sorties.  When's the last time we got such detail in the US?  

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQGqX5Ndpm4snE0NTjyOJnA

In the US we don't' get any of this, we rely on Wikileaks for any tangible information. In the first gulf war we used to get briefings as such. Guess its eaiser to do this when everything your doing is legitimate truth, when it's not, it's secret or removed from public eyes.



A lot of good aggregated detailed can be found in the next link.  Some of it confirmed, some their still working on.   If it's all a lie, they're doing much better than the US gov and MSM do.  Usually all we get out of our bunch is a headlines, or key talking points "Your either with us, or your with the terrorists".  No interviews from citizens on the ground, no video, no analysis after raids, and attacks, no corroboration of facts.
http://iswresearch.blogspot.de/2015/09/russias-first-reported-air-strikes-in.html

We'll find out in short order.  Russian state media has reported that 3k ISIS have fled to Jordan for safe haven.  Something has got them stirred.
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PostSubject: Re: US Country Meddling    US Country Meddling  EmptyOctober 13th 2015, 1:25 pm

Thanks for the links, should be interested reading. I believe the only reason Putin is putting this out there is to rub Obama's nose in it, and rightfully so.

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