F-150 to the Max

I wonder what they had to strip of the truck to get those tow and payload numbers?

It's becoming a joke. Might as well have Baghdad Bob announcing the numbers.

pup wrote:

It's becoming a joke. Might as well have Baghdad Bob announcing the numbers.

I'm picturing them coming up with the numbers using an auctioneer.

When they start right sizing these trucks again we will really see MPG improvements.

Even the new GM mid-sized are obese. The front hood line should be 1-2" lower to improve areo and visibility. John McElroy nailed it on his road test, the trucks look big from the outside but feel small on the inside. Like that is a good thing, just more poor packaging. You're supposed to make it look small but feel big people.

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PRESS RELEASE

ALL-NEW FORD F-150: TOUGHEST, SMARTEST, MOST CAPABLE F-150 EVER DELIVERS INDUSTRY-LEADING TOWING, PAYLOAD PERFORMANCE

- Dealers and consumers across the United States start testing the all-new 2015 Ford F-150 ahead of its arrival in dealerships later this year.

- All-new F-150 delivers industry's best towing and payload capability among full-size pickups; F-150 can tow 12,200 pounds and haul 3,300 pounds.

- Regardless of model configuration or engine choice, every truck customer benefits from up to 700 pounds of weight savings with the 2015 F-150; F-150 can tow up to 1,100 more pounds, haul up to 530 more pounds and is projected to deliver fuel economy ratings in the range of at least 5 percent and as much as 20 percent higher gas mileage than today's truck, depending on the model.

The 2015 Ford F-150 – the reinvention of America's favorite pickup – is winning early praise as it sets the standard for the future of tough, thanks to the all-new vehicle's impressive combination of power, capability and efficiency.

This month, the first of 10,000 dealer sales consultants began test driving the new truck in 26 cities nationwide. Performance driving and competitive towing exercises are underscoring the industry's best towing and payload capability among full-size pickups – the all-new F-150 can tow 12,200 pounds and haul 3,300 pounds.

Overall, the 2015 F-150 is the toughest, smartest, most capable F-150 ever. Regardless of model configuration or engine choice, every truck customer benefits from up to 700 pounds of weight savings the new truck delivers. The all-new F-150 can tow up to 1,100 more pounds, haul up to 530 more pounds and is projected to have fuel economy ratings in the range of at least 5 percent and as much as 20 percent better gas mileage than today's truck, depending on the model. (Specific gas mileage numbers for the entire lineup will be certified by the U.S. EPA, likely in November, and announced at that time.)

"Once again, Ford F-150 establishes new standards in durability, capability, technology and efficiency," said Joe Hinrichs, Ford president of The Americas. "We keep raising the bar on America's favorite truck to help F-150 owners be more productive 24/7 – whether for work or weekend fun."

Early test drives offered:

Through December, dealer sales consultants will put the all-new F-150 through its paces in 26 cities, testing the truck's speed and towing capability while experiencing its smart new features.

These early drives are meant to help sales professionals understand the truck's strengths from the best perspective – the driver's seat.

Consumers also can test drive the all-new F-150 ahead of the truck's arrival in dealer showrooms. From Oct. 11 to Dec. 21, consumers in 38 U.S. cities can participate in up to 20,000 test drives of the new truck nationwide, with product experts along for the ride explaining smart new innovations and answering questions.

Consumers can preregister for events at F150drive.com. If no stops are yet planned near a customer's location, he or she will be notified of future tour visits. Walk-up participation is encouraged.

Punishing testing proves toughest F-150 ever:

The new truck's improved performance is enabled by reducing up to 700 pounds of weight through the use of high-strength steel in the frame and high-strength, military-grade, aluminum alloy in the body.

Before the new F-150 goes on sale, it will have been torture-tested for more than 10 million miles in a range of temperatures and terrain – in labs, at Ford proving grounds, in the hands of some of the most demanding truck customers and even in the grueling Baja 1000 off-road race.

New technologies mean smartest F-150 ever:

Several groundbreaking features debut in the all-new F-150, including 11 available class-exclusives:

360-degree camera view uses exterior cameras to create a bird's-eye view of the truck to help drivers park, maneuver in tight spots, and navigate narrow roads and trails.

Integrated loading ramps enable easy loading of ATVs, motorcycles and mowers.

BoxLink combines metal brackets and custom cleats to secure a variety of accessories in the cargo box – from ramps to storage bins to bed dividers.

LED headlamps; LED taillamps provide excellent nighttime visibility.

Trailer hitch assist adds a new rearview camera feature that incorporates a dynamic line based on steering wheel angle in the display to help customers line up their truck and trailer with no spotter or need to exit the vehicle.

Remote tailgate allows for tailgate to be locked, unlocked and released with the key fob.

Four engine choices ensure most capable F-150 ever.

The all-new F-150 lineup includes four engine options for more power, and to meet most any customer need:

2.7-liter EcoBoost® V6 with standard Auto Start-Stop: New engine design produces 325 horsepower and 375 lb.-ft. of torque. The 2.7-liter EcoBoost 4x2 has a maximum payload rating of 2,250 pounds and maximum tow rating of 8,500 pounds – ideal for meeting mid-range capability requirements and the needs of more than 90 percent of light-duty truck customers.

3.5-liter EcoBoost: This twin-turbo EcoBoost engine delivers V8-like 420 lb.-ft. of torque and 365 horsepower to enable towing of up to 12,200 pounds – more than enough to handle a fully loaded, three-horse trailer or large boat. It has earned an industry-leading maximum payload rating of 3,180 pounds.

5.0-liter V8 with twin independent variable camshaft timing: Improved power and efficiency, delivering 385 horsepower and 387 lb.-ft. of torque. Smart engineering enhancements such as a new long-runner intake manifold, revised intake cam duration and new pulse-separated exhaust manifolds help raise towing capability by 1,100 pounds to a maximum 11,100 pounds, and payload to 3,300 pounds.

3.5-liter V6 with twin independent variable camshaft timing: This engine produces 283 horsepower and 255 lb.-ft. of torque. It has a maximum payload of 1,910 pounds and maximum tow rating of 7,600 pounds – unsurpassed for standard V6 light-duty pickup trucks.

New F-150 goes on sale later this year:

When it arrives in showrooms late this year, the all-new Ford F-150 will continue offering the broadest selection of trim levels in the full-size pickup segment. Five primary trims are available, and include XL, XLT, Lariat, Platinum and King Ranch. Chrome appearance packages are available with XL, XLT, Lariat and King Ranch. Monochromatic sport appearance packages are available with XL, XLT and Lariat.

The FX4 off-road package can be added to most four-wheel-drive models, improving trail capability with an electronic locking rear axle, skid plates and off-road-tuned shocks.

FORD

The 2015 Ford F-150 will be compliant with the Society of Automotive Engineer's J2807 standards.

Sort of nullifies the magic spring dust if they are all using the same standard.

I believe max gvwr for half tons is 8500 lbs. Gonna be hard for GM and Ram to compete with these numbers unless the go on a diet. That's probably why Ford chose the non diesel route as well, I've seen where some Ram ecodiesel configurations have 490 lbs payload.

Yep taking mass out of the truck proportionally affects the payload rating all other items remaining consistent. Will be interesting to see how Ram and GM respond.

I went through the build and price for the new 2015, wow those things are pricey if you want leather and a few options on a 4x4 crew with the 5.0.

joemac wrote:

Yep taking mass out of the truck proportionally affects the payload rating all other items remaining consistent.  Will be interesting to see how Ram and GM respond.

i don't think Ram will respond in the 1/2 ton area to this payload IMO

They have said that they aren't tring to be the truck with the highest, that's what they have 3/4 tons for.

plus they are selling like wildfire already while having a low payload on some models already

Seems potentially short sighted for Ram to open up a vulnerability with current sales momentum.  It was alleged some models have less than 1000 lbs payload and even some configurations have just north of 400 lbs.  If this is valid, a couple passengers and a tank of fuel the truck will be over GVWR.


2015 Ford F-150 4x2 SuperCrew 3.5L V-6: 4475 pounds
2014 Ram 1500 ST 4x2 Crew Cab 3.6L V-6: 4924 pounds
2014 Ram 1500 3.0 4x4 EcoDiesel V6: 6460 pounds

http://blogs.cars.com/files/1-ram-1500-silv-ll-crew-4x4-231.pdf

I don't know, should be interesting.

don't discount how much people like the nice ride on these rams, they ride like freakin Cadillac.

that said, I doubt the ford with the 3300 lbs payload would ride anywhere near as nice, maybe that's what Ram is banking on.

there are always trade offs.

we'll see, should be interesting.

I wish Ford would come out with a high tech large displacement V8 though, something in the 5.7-6.2 range. That's just my personnel preference though.

A payload with the capacity for fuel and passengers kinda defeats the purpose of a truck. You could have a much more fuel efficient vehicle that can handle 500 pounds. Maybe it's just me but if I have a 1500/150 I expect to be able to fill the seats and still have enough payload capacity left over to put around 1000 in the bed. I'll sacrifice some ride comfort for the ability to actually use the truck. Now on the other hand, I wonder how many soccer moms and weekend worriers actually know the limits of the truck they are in. I'd be willing to bet there is a high percentage that have no clue.

Scout wrote:

A payload with the capacity for fuel and passengers kinda defeats the purpose of a truck.  You could have a much more fuel efficient vehicle that can handle 500 pounds.  Maybe it's just me but if I have a 1500/150 I expect to be able to fill the seats and still have enough payload capacity left over to put around 1000 in the bed.  I'll sacrifice some ride comfort for the ability to actually use the truck.  Now on the other hand, I wonder how many soccer moms and weekend worriers actually know the limits of the truck they are in.  I'd be willing to bet there is a high percentage that have no clue.  

not to many trucks (1500) allow you to fill the seats and still have room for 1K in the bed.

I don't think any standard 1/2 ton crew 4x4 does this actually, only the HD payload ones from ford.

assume 200lbs ave, that's 800 right there, not too many 1/2 tons have 1800lbs payloads in the crew cabs.

That said, the payload on some of these Rams 700lbs ect. is pathetic.

mine is about 1250lbs I think which is fine for me.

I get a 1400 pound payload with the truck I have now. Of course that never stopped me from putting more in when the need to came around. The worst was when I was filling a huge hole in a yard someone dug for a trampoline. I'm guessing that was over 2000 pounds per trip. The springs didn't have much bounce left.

Scout wrote:

The worst was when I was filling a huge hole in a yard someone dug for a trampoline.  I'm guessing that was over 2000 pounds per trip.  The springs didn't have much bounce left.  

Sure about that? No pogo'ing? Bouncy bouncy. Been there done that.

The whole payload rating is as bad as the tow rating prior to the SAE standard.

Remember when one of the truck magazines did a TOTY and the ridgeline had a higher payload than a 2500 Dodge/Cummins Megacab? The ridgeline running at its load capacity was tail dragging and didn't feel safe but the Ram didn't even flinch.

For comparison my wife's CUV Ford Edge has a payload rating of 909 lbs. My F150 (non-SAE) is stickered at 1507 lbs.