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PostSubject: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 3rd 2015, 11:40 am

Anyone else getting sick to their stomachs watching our media tie themselves in knots trying to explain and PC away the facts that the two California animals were Islamists?

"The motive is still a mystery"

"Could just be workplace violence"

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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 3rd 2015, 2:26 pm

Don't be too hard on the terrorist. They are just victims of climate change according to Obama and Bill Nye. All we have to do is address climate change then the world will be all hunky dory.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 3rd 2015, 6:25 pm

Now imagine if the two peace loving Muslims were a couple of rednecks named Jim Bob Cooter and Petey Hank Buttwallow....you think the media would have held on to the names for 5 hours? And once they HAD to release the name, then tied them selves into such knots of anguish over trying to justify the terrorism away....

Look at Chicago, over 3000 murders in the streets there this year by black on black crime, and the only one they are worried about is the cop gunning down the drug addled idiot 13 months ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 3rd 2015, 8:23 pm

But it is just workplace violence. I'm sick of this bull crap, call it what it is - Terrorism. Maybe if the people in California had concealed carry this wouldn't have turned out so bad.

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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 3rd 2015, 9:40 pm

I'm fed up with how they keep talking about the school for mentally challenged kids.
It's just a coincidence that the county rented the banquet hall!
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 4th 2015, 12:40 am

And Hillary sticks foot-in-mouth again to complain about guns.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 4th 2015, 1:34 pm

Before the bodies were cold, activists, media outlets couldn't help themselves:  Relating the event to a Planned Parenthood facility two miles away, or spewing endless unsubstantiated.

Alan Colmes said the shooting twas across the street from PP.  Another called to put white conservative men in oncentration camps.  Among other spews...... When are we going to start classifying white men as terriorists?  One surmised it was someone radicalized by reading Trumps new book.  

Now those people quickly faded and fell back to gun control and tougher background checks and call it a mass shooting, not terrorism. 

This is quickly becoming a war of civilizations.  All the while our PC country is allowing the enemy through th gate at record numbers.  Seems American's, real American's are left on their own.

When a person who trains the FBI And CIA on counter terrorism calls for everyone who can legally carry, should carry and be prepared to defend yourself and family, that's a pretty serious and stark statement.

A few weak republicans are using this event to flaunt discussion over Syrian refugees.  Helpful hint to these weaklings, Syria is one country, the US has bought in people over the last 20 years and continues too from 20 plus Muslim countries, look at past terrorist events in the US to gain insight to how far and wide the problem exists.  It's not just Syria.

We thought our last AG was bad, now Lynch speaking the Muslim Advocate’s 10th anniversary dinner states she will take aggressive action against the “incredibly disturbing rise of anti-Muslim rhetoric.” “we stand with you”.  She promised to protect Muslims from violence and discrimination.

“When we talk about the First Amendment we [must] make it clear that actions predicated on violent talk are not American,” said Lynch. “They are not who we are, they are not what we do, and they will be prosecuted.”

PBS Frontline had a good last episode that shows ISIS in Afghanistan and Pakistan training children in schools as young as 8.  We've really screwed the pooch this time folks.  How bout next time we want to fight a preemptive wars or destroy more secular countries and governments some common sense is inserted at some point.

Sadly it will take, more, many more American's dying before any uprising of true hard change occurs.   This is quickly becoming a war of civilizations.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 4th 2015, 2:06 pm

The never ending hate rhetoric out of DC pitting one group against another does nothing but inflame the fringe elements among us too.

When confronted with their insane, idiotic ramblings, they double and triple down on them. We have a group of sniveling toddlers in DC throwing bombs at each other...the unstable fringe laps it up...then goes on a killing spree. Lather rinse repeat.

These islamist among us is an entire different problem altogether. And no amount of naive idiocy from the left is going to deter them for even a microsecond.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 4th 2015, 9:37 pm

Hopefully the public gives Obama a loud 'no' on the 10,000 Islamic immigrants.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 4th 2015, 9:41 pm

I should add, after seeing a picture of the latest female terrorist, her husband Farook had to be either blind or a terrorist as she was about as vile appearing as any man could be.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 4th 2015, 9:53 pm

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And no amount of naive idiocy from the left is going to deter them for even a microsecond.

But more gun control WILL deter the extremists! Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 5th 2015, 1:11 am

The country is being over run.  It's not if it's when.  Law enforcement can't catch them all.  That should be pretty clear by now.  No amount of law enforcement, intelligence, or surveillance can observe the numbers we're talking.  

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/12/middle-eastern-men-arrested-near-mexican-border-with-steel-cylinders/

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Five young Middle Eastern men were apprehended by the U.S. Border Patrol this week in an Arizona town situated about 30 miles from the Mexican border, law enforcement and other sources told Judicial Watch.

Border Patrol agents spotted the men crossing a ranch property in the vicinity of Amado, which is located about 35 miles south of Tucson and has a population of 275. Two of the Middle Eastern men were carrying stainless steel cylinders in backpacks, JW’s sources say, alarming Border Patrol officials enough to call the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for backup. A multitude of federal agents descended on the property and the two men carrying the cylinders were believed to be taken into custody by the FBI.

From Pakistan alone we've taken in 200k since 911.  https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2015/12/how-many-tashfeen-maliks-have-we-brought-in We're being over run by an enemy that is known within these numbers. Or an an enemy that can easily be created within after the fact. It's not just Syrian refugees. It's individuals from all Muslim countries that's the concern. Case in point, look at the countries from all of the terrorist that have attacked or tried to carry out an attack since 911.


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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 5th 2015, 10:10 am

The latest all out push from the regime and its cronies is to redefine "common sense"....

That means, anything out of lock step, unquestioned agreement with them is extremist thinking, total devotion is "common sense"

So when you hear, "We need common sense gun control", be afraid, be very, very afraid.

This week, prayer for victims in California was mocked by the left in major newspapers, and then celebrated and defined as "common sense by the rest of the left.

Repealing the 2nd Amendment was talked about openly, and even defined as "common sense"

Our AG of the US biggest fears is people speaking out against Muslims and she threatened that speech with prosecution--First Amendment under attack. --More "common sense" and defined as "American" by her. How many times over the last 7 years have you heard, "Thats not what America is" from these zealots bent in its destruction?

That all was inside of 3 days. That was our regimes response to ISIS in the USA. Mockery, punishment, stripping you of your rights and even prosecution. Still zero word on the terrorists themselves. But they did double down on bringing in more "refugees"

This is what happens when a political extremist ideology runs unchecked. To me, its far more dangerous than any religious fanatic...this regime effects every single one of us and the future of the nation.

They are more aligned with ISIS than they are us. And hell bent on punishing us into their definition of "common sense". Each time they are proven wrong, they fire harder and harder left. Did a week even pass between Obama mocking people as afraid of widows and orphans and when they started detonating in France and shooting up California?

The left has rationalized to themselves that the only reason the terrorist exist is in response to the GOP/Political right in this country...and the only reason members of the left are killed in attacks is also because of the GOP/Right giving rise to the terrorist. They see their fellow Americans at the biggest threats/enemies in their lives...Hillary Clinton openly stated the GOP as an enemy in one of those debate farces the left staged in September. They refuse to even say "Radical Islam" or "Islamic Extremist" but have no problem attacking you, your way of life, your religion and your rights.

Now, imagine what they will do if it becomes apparent that their grip on power becomes threatened. We haven't seen fanatics like these in power since the 30's and 40's....and it took untold millions of dead to root them out before it was all said and done.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 5th 2015, 11:33 am

The sad thing is there are reports neighbors and fellow employees saw suspicious activity but didn't act on it. Hopefully that's a wake up call.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 5th 2015, 11:46 am

It's pretty easy to assess that the American people are under assault from every angle.  Including our own government.  People are so naive to believe that they're government wouldn't do this.  And that it can't happen today.  Just over 200 years ago this country fought to break away from such tyranny.  We're not being truthful to ourselves to think just 200 years later sophisticated subversive technocratic tyranny can't flourish.  We've seen it even in the last century.

When your own government subverts the rule of law and defines the country in legislation as "the battlefield" tossing Posse Comitatus asside.

When your government implements legislation that allows US citizens to be labeled "enemy combatants" by an unknown government official or department.

When your government now can detain you indefinitely without due process.

When your government can't answer the question quickly and concisely if it can assassinate US citizens without due process.

When your government observes, records, surveils you by any method in all moments of time.

When your government knowingly infiltrates the population by the millions to subvert the will, foundation of civility and forever change the country.

When a government implements such planning, there are agendas in play that the American people, most of are willfully ignorant of what comes next.

The USA will likely go down as an experiment that lasted less than 250 years due to the people becoming complacent that it can't happen here and now.

There are absolutely zero metrics that indicate USA is on any correction course.  For those that can read, ever metric, every indicator is either a fabricated lie, or primed to fail.  Good luck USA.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 5th 2015, 1:17 pm

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It's pretty easy to assess that the American people are under assault from every angle.  Including our own government.  People are so naive to believe that they're government wouldn't do this.  And that it can't happen today.  Just over 200 years ago this country fought to break away from such tyranny.  We're not being truthful to ourselves to think just 200 years later sophisticated subversive technocratic tyranny can't flourish.  We've seen it even in the last century.

When your own government subverts the rule of law and defines the country in legislation as "the battlefield" tossing Posse Comitatus asside.

When your government implements legislation that allows US citizens to be labeled "enemy combatants" by an unknown government official or department.

When your government now can detain you indefinitely without due process.

When your government can't answer the question quickly and concisely if it can assassinate US citizens without due process.

When your government observes, records, surveils you by any method in all moments of time.

When your government knowingly infiltrates the population by the millions to subvert the will, foundation of civility and forever change the country.

When a government implements such planning, there are agendas in play that the American people, most of are willfully ignorant of what comes next.

The USA will likely go down as an experiment that lasted less than 250 years due to the people becoming complacent that it can't happen here and now.

There are absolutely zero metrics that indicate USA is on any correction course.  For those that can read, ever metric, every indicator is either a fabricated lie, or primed to fail.  Good luck USA.




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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 5th 2015, 1:42 pm

Diseasel wrote:
The sad thing is there are reports neighbors and fellow employees saw suspicious activity but didn't act on it. Hopefully that's a wake up call.

I'd like to think so but I'm not so sure. Just look at bomb boy. Everyone evolved in looking into that turned into some kind of racist Islamophobe. If the neighbors reported this and police checked into it and found nothing they would get the labels. And like bomb boy the terrorists would probably try to sue the city and its citizens for being reported. It's a FU%*ed up time we are living in.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 5th 2015, 10:22 pm

Put a cartoon picks of Calvin peeing on the cross and Muhammad.
Then drive through Deerborn MI or ST. Paul MN and see what "americans" attack you.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 6th 2015, 4:27 pm

Uncivilized behavior and more on the way in spades.  
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 6th 2015, 6:41 pm

Our Cock in Chief is making a speech tonite in response to his bad polling numbers for standing with ISIS.

I'd rather watch fat man gay porn than hear another word from that idiot.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 6th 2015, 9:25 pm

I'll watch just so I'm informed of what goober is up too and what additional subversive crap they're attempting to pull.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 7th 2015, 1:29 am

That's much better than the alternative. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 7th 2015, 9:19 am

So, how was his latest lecture? Anything new, or just more of the same, you're stupid, I'm brilliant crap all over again?
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 7th 2015, 9:22 am

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/72-dhs-employees-on-terrorist-watch-list/

72 DHS Employees in terror watch list. You just can't make this up if you tried.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 7th 2015, 11:44 am

He said it was common sense that people on the "no fly" list shouldn't be able to buy firearms.

What could go wrong? Sounds good on the surface. Imagine just a small issue similar in nature to the IRS targeting conservative groups because of political ideology.

First and foremost the 2nd and 5th amendments.

Second there is no due process to be put on the "no fly" list. Some government individual, or agency lops a name on there. Of which there are over a million names it's understood.

How do you get off the "no fly" list? Government won't say. There have been countless mistakes with the "no fly" list, toddlers, journalists, normal citizens that are on the list, no one from the government knows why their names are on there nor how they got put on there, and no process to remove ones name from the list.

What could go wrong?

But yet DHS has 72 employees on the terror watch list working for it, that's cool. TSA misses 95% of recent tests for prohibited items. Government solution, erode more rights of people previously they couldn't get to.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 7th 2015, 11:54 am

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So, how was his latest lecture? Anything new, or just more of the same, you're stupid, I'm brilliant crap all over again?

Gee how did you know.  He spent over half lecturing us about not harboring any concern or ill will over our Muslims in the country, it was an infomercial on how peaceful and accommodating they are.

In all seriousness yes Barrack we know there are good ones. issue is that there's a lot of hate and violence being spun up in the name of that religion on a massive scale in which the Muslims themselves aren't doing anything to prevent or get in front of. They need to control their own and conform to a civilized society before coming after those that are civil.  The problem is getting out of hand quick, the rate and number indoctrinated into this cult is on scale and reach is on a path to crate all out war of civilizations.  Where are the Muslim missions to the ME getting face to face and dealing with he problem head on?  How about we talk about Saudi Arabia's role.  We've heard at nauseum how Islam is a religion of peace, yet we seem Islam being used for a tremendous amount of hate and death at.  Actions speak louder than words.


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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 7th 2015, 1:04 pm

The only "solutions" they ever offer is stripping law abiding Americans of more of their rights.

We don't have fanatical Japanese or Nazi's for a reason. We killed enough of them to make them surrender and give that nonsense up

Until we do the same with the fanatical muslims, we lose. By refusing to engage them at that level, we allow them to grow and thrive.

We can do it now, or we can wait and do it later, and kill 100 million more innocents in the process.

History dictates we will wait. It will take a nuclear weapon or some incredible biological attack on a major city before the world finally wakes up and refuses to allow this cancer to exist any further. Then the death toll will be in the millions.

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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 7th 2015, 4:31 pm

Currently Islam is not a religion of peace, not if followers live by their book. However, once all infidels are killed or convert or pay the fine, it may be a religion of peace. I for one am not willing to wait and see. Since the book instructs followers to kill non muslims, I think they should be banned from this country, they're all potential terrorists.
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PostSubject: Re: Islamists   Islamists EmptyDecember 7th 2015, 5:19 pm

My 22 year old is listed on the no fly list. Any time we fly, he has to have at least 2 photo ID's. Must be an IRA terrorist. He has never been denied passage, but now he wants to get a firearms purchase card and I'm wondering if this will cause a problem. Finger prints should clear that up I would hope.

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